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      But the thing about Franz Ferdinand is, it always goes back to one thing. It goes back to this doesn't it? What is this? And who am I alluding to and maybe can you try to play it.
Alex: The Stylophone? Never heard one? Click to hear.

Who plays the Stylophone?
Bob: Rolf Harris
Nick: David Bowie.

You're missing it. In a very important band. A band you might have given their first big break.
Alex: Mogwai?

You had the Kazoo Club, Alex, didn't you? You had the Kazoo Club and you put on lots of bands in Scotland.
Alex: [laughs] How do you know this stuff? Yeah, Yeah.

And you put on all these gigs in Scotland. And what band did you give an early break at the Kazoo Club?
Alex: I'm trying to think.

Belle And...
Alex: Sebastian, of course.

They play a stylophone.
Alex: Yeah, they do. They do.
Paul: There's one on "Space Oddity" as well.

[Paul starts playing the Stylophone]

You remember seeing them with one onstage don't you?
Alex: I don't remember seeing the Stylophone...
Nick: Can I have it?

Um, no. Unfortunately not. I just thought you'd see this and immediately connect it with Belle And Sebastian.
Alex: I didn't. But I do remember them playing with them, definitely, yeah.

It is true that Rolf Harris was into these.
Paul: Yes, he was.

He was into these big-time. So what can you explain about Belle And Sebastian. Did you really give Belle And Sebastian a big break with the Kazoo Club, what was the Kazoo Club there?
Alex: There was a place in Glasgow [ laughs ] called the 13th Door and, uh, I used to stick bands on there. I had two clubs. I had the Kazoo Club and I had the 99P Club. And the Kazoo Club was free. The idea was the bands would come down and play for a bit of beer and people wouldn't have to pay and we've give 'em amps to play with and stuff. And the 99P Club, we just charged a Quid to get in and the band got the money. It was just a good sort of environment. Lots of people got together. It was a good scene.

Cause I was fascinated to learn that Alex was on the scene so early in the Scottish scene, wasn't he there?
Bob: I suppose so.

Like, giving Belle And Sebastian a break. I thought you were brand new---
Nick: But you don't know anything about…

I know you ( Nick ) want this. I know you want this. And I know you're not… is he a big Belle And Sebastian fan?
Alex: He is. He loves those guys.

Are you really? But you didn't notice that they played these on stage?
Nick: Damn you ! [laughs] I didn't.

Now caught on film. Were you sleeping during their gigs?
k Ah, shit.

Believe me, some people have, haven't they? Ha, Ha, Ha.
Paul: I think we fell asleep during the stylophone solo.

Winding up here with Franz...
Alex: Ferdi...
Bob : ...Nand

I wanted to ask you about Belle And Sebastian. I mean, in all seriousness, the importance of Belle And Sebastian. Is it true they have treasure hunts, and stuff like that? Like secret games they play with their audience?
Alex: They go for picnics and things with their audience and stuff like that. Yeah, they have a lot of fun.

Have you thought about doing anything like that?
Alex: Umm…
Bob: Maybe in the summer.
[laughs]
Alex: It's not picnic weather just now, is it?

Who is Rab C. Nesbitt? And how is he important to Scotland?
Paul: He's the caricature of some character that is prevalent in Glasgow.

Is that like all people in Glasgow and Scotland, and how would you describe him to people that don't know him?
Paul: Everybody in Govern, at least, looks like that. [ laughs ]

How would you describe Rab C. Nesbitt?
Alex: It's so not true. He's such an exceptional character that sometimes comes across in Glasgow, a caricature. He wears a string vest which is stained with food and beer. He has the Daily Record in one pocket, which is the tabloid newspaper of Scotland. And he usually has a drink, he's usually drunk and shouting his worldviews at the world.
Paul: He's a caricature of pub bores, people who think their opinion is the be-all-end-all of everything.

     
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